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	<title>Comments on: Bonobo Plywood Bicycle</title>
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		<title>By: telekom</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1461</link>
		<dc:creator>telekom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like it. But some observations I would make:

-I agree with other commenters that the headtube steelwork is a bit bulky. I think the frame design might be stiffer and more elegant if the two plywood elements actually join round the headtube, leaving out the steel.

-I&#039;m thinking another evolution of this design would address the steel plate/bolted construction round the joins. I think that&#039;s going to be a weak spot in time, as the bolts will eventually loosen in the plywood. Perhaps the bolts could be made more secure by shrink-fitting a steel bush into the frame and then bolting into the bush with thread-lock compound (like you would use on motorbike bolts).

-Having made sculptures in the past using laminated plywood, I reckon you could add aesthetic interest, and remove some weight from the frame, by chamfering/rounding the frame edges. I like the effect of the  varying widths of the laminates this gives. :)

Not intending to sound over-critical, just my 2p on possible evolutions to explore. I totally admire the idea and the commitment required to produce this prototype. Well done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it. But some observations I would make:</p>
<p>-I agree with other commenters that the headtube steelwork is a bit bulky. I think the frame design might be stiffer and more elegant if the two plywood elements actually join round the headtube, leaving out the steel.</p>
<p>-I&#8217;m thinking another evolution of this design would address the steel plate/bolted construction round the joins. I think that&#8217;s going to be a weak spot in time, as the bolts will eventually loosen in the plywood. Perhaps the bolts could be made more secure by shrink-fitting a steel bush into the frame and then bolting into the bush with thread-lock compound (like you would use on motorbike bolts).</p>
<p>-Having made sculptures in the past using laminated plywood, I reckon you could add aesthetic interest, and remove some weight from the frame, by chamfering/rounding the frame edges. I like the effect of the  varying widths of the laminates this gives. <img src='http://www.cycleexif.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Not intending to sound over-critical, just my 2p on possible evolutions to explore. I totally admire the idea and the commitment required to produce this prototype. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: TM</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1420</link>
		<dc:creator>TM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grumpy: I wasn&#039;t dissing the components. The actual frame - the bent ply and the metal I mentioned - leaves a lot of room for improvement. This is being presented like a finished product but it&#039;s awkward geometry and construction make it look like there was little actual design thought beyond the plywood. Further, despite the pleasant aesthetic of the bent ply, this thing would be unrideable due to the width of that &quot;top tube.&quot; This is an academic exercise and I don&#039;t think it deserves a free pass on the poor design elements. There are true craftsman who&#039;ve put in decades learning to master frame construction, elevating it to a true art form, who will never get this kind of pub because they&#039;re not working a trendy angle. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grumpy: I wasn&#8217;t dissing the components. The actual frame &#8211; the bent ply and the metal I mentioned &#8211; leaves a lot of room for improvement. This is being presented like a finished product but it&#8217;s awkward geometry and construction make it look like there was little actual design thought beyond the plywood. Further, despite the pleasant aesthetic of the bent ply, this thing would be unrideable due to the width of that &#8220;top tube.&#8221; This is an academic exercise and I don&#8217;t think it deserves a free pass on the poor design elements. There are true craftsman who&#8217;ve put in decades learning to master frame construction, elevating it to a true art form, who will never get this kind of pub because they&#8217;re not working a trendy angle. </p>
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		<title>By: Robvanravenswaay</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1406</link>
		<dc:creator>Robvanravenswaay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I want one. Very nice bike ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want one. Very nice bike </p>
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		<title>By: Robvanravenswaay</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1407</link>
		<dc:creator>Robvanravenswaay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I want one. Very nice bike ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want one. Very nice bike </p>
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		<title>By: Niro</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator>Niro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No way that saddle is gonna hold! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way that saddle is gonna hold! </p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 07:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The head tube, seat tube, BB mount, and dropouts are hideous and completely detract from what would otherwise be an elegant design&quot;

Oh my good lord, you actually said that...these are obviously the best parts he could afford for this concept, so any comment about them is pretty much irrelevant. And yeah, all these design pundits going on and on about design...whatever next? You&#039;d almost think that they would just shut up about all these things that don&#039;t meet/match your personal aesthetic...how inconsiderate.!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The head tube, seat tube, BB mount, and dropouts are hideous and completely detract from what would otherwise be an elegant design&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh my good lord, you actually said that&#8230;these are obviously the best parts he could afford for this concept, so any comment about them is pretty much irrelevant. And yeah, all these design pundits going on and on about design&#8230;whatever next? You&#8217;d almost think that they would just shut up about all these things that don&#8217;t meet/match your personal aesthetic&#8230;how inconsiderate.! <img src='http://www.cycleexif.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TM</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1384</link>
		<dc:creator>TM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The wooden bike thing was interesting a few years ago and a few exceptional examples pop up here and there, but it seems like anybody who builds a wooden frame gets featured all over the Web regardless of beauty, functionality, or technical prowess. The head tube, seat tube, BB mount, and dropouts are hideous and completely detract from what would otherwise be an elegant design, particularly the stays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wooden bike thing was interesting a few years ago and a few exceptional examples pop up here and there, but it seems like anybody who builds a wooden frame gets featured all over the Web regardless of beauty, functionality, or technical prowess. The head tube, seat tube, BB mount, and dropouts are hideous and completely detract from what would otherwise be an elegant design, particularly the stays.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnevillebrooks</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1383</link>
		<dc:creator>Gnevillebrooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 03:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think the designnis very beautiful butbthe concept is interesting. and no I&#039;ve never seen a plywood chair delaminate with use, what were you doing with it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the designnis very beautiful butbthe concept is interesting. and no I&#8217;ve never seen a plywood chair delaminate with use, what were you doing with it?</p>
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		<title>By: drewfitz13</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>drewfitz13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone seen a ply wood chair delaminate and spill the person sitting in the chair.  This is a gorgeous design and i&#039;m sure it is incredible sturdy now, but after riding it 100 miles or so, it&#039;s going to be an entirely different story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone seen a ply wood chair delaminate and spill the person sitting in the chair.  This is a gorgeous design and i&#8217;m sure it is incredible sturdy now, but after riding it 100 miles or so, it&#8217;s going to be an entirely different story.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Torres</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1381</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very Awesome. I wonder how much it weighs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Awesome. I wonder how much it weighs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle McPherson</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1380</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle McPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like that it&#039;s held up by a teacup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that it&#8217;s held up by a teacup.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Cerveny</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1379</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Cerveny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re refering to vertical motion, akin to suspension, then youre probably correct. If youre referencing torsional movement, I&#039;d wager this bike is much stiffer than you think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re refering to vertical motion, akin to suspension, then youre probably correct. If youre referencing torsional movement, I&#8217;d wager this bike is much stiffer than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: defaultusername</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator>defaultusername</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should be able to buy one at Ikea any day now. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be able to buy one at Ikea any day now. </p>
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		<title>By: www</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator>www</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flex. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flex. </p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Cerveny</title>
		<link>http://www.cycleexif.com/bonobo-plywood-bicycle#comment-1376</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Cerveny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a carpenter by trade and an obsessed bike geek I&#039;ve got to say I&#039;m thoroughly impressed with the design of this bike and would be inclined to think that the functionality would probably be quite good. Granted, the component choice is lacking, but otherwise, Very Cool...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a carpenter by trade and an obsessed bike geek I&#8217;ve got to say I&#8217;m thoroughly impressed with the design of this bike and would be inclined to think that the functionality would probably be quite good. Granted, the component choice is lacking, but otherwise, Very Cool&#8230;</p>
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